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Zach Ertz
Washington’s tight end room is led by 11-year veteran Zach Ertz, who spent most of his previous pro career with the Philadelphia Eagles. He appears to have ended up in Washington, however, due to his connection to offensive coordinator Kliff Kingsbury, who was Ertz’s head coach in Arizona in 2021-22. Three of Ertz’s last four seasons (2020, ‘22, ‘23) were marred by injury. Rather than attempting to recount the career of a player most Commanders fans are quite familiar with, I’ll just post his career stats.
| Games | Receiving | Rushing | Total Yds | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Year | Age | Tm | Pos | No. | G | GS | Tgt | Rec | Yds | Y/R | TD | 1D | Succ% | Lng | R/G | Y/G | Ctch% | Y/Tgt | Att | Yds | TD | 1D | Succ% | Lng | Y/A | Y/G | A/G | Touch | Y/Tch | YScm | RRTD | Fmb | AV | Awards |
| 2013 | 23 | PHI | TE | 86 | 16 | 3 | 57 | 36 | 469 | 13.0 | 4 | 25 | 50.9 | 38 | 2.3 | 29.3 | 63.2% | 8.2 | 0 | 36 | 13.0 | 469 | 4 | 0 | 4 | |||||||||
| 2014 | 24 | PHI | TE | 86 | 16 | 5 | 89 | 58 | 702 | 12.1 | 3 | 42 | 58.4 | 35 | 3.6 | 43.9 | 65.2% | 7.9 | 0 | 58 | 12.1 | 702 | 3 | 1 | 5 | |||||||||
| 2015 | 25 | PHI | TE | 86 | 15 | 7 | 112 | 75 | 853 | 11.4 | 2 | 40 | 51.8 | 60 | 5.0 | 56.9 | 67.0% | 7.6 | 0 | 75 | 11.4 | 853 | 2 | 1 | 6 | |||||||||
| 2016 | 26 | PHI | TE | 86 | 14 | 12 | 106 | 78 | 816 | 10.5 | 4 | 42 | 57.5 | 30 | 5.6 | 58.3 | 73.6% | 7.7 | 0 | 78 | 10.5 | 816 | 4 | 0 | 7 | |||||||||
| 2017* | 27 | PHI | TE | 86 | 14 | 13 | 110 | 74 | 824 | 11.1 | 8 | 46 | 56.4 | 53 | 5.3 | 58.9 | 67.3% | 7.5 | 0 | 74 | 11.1 | 824 | 8 | 1 | 8 | PB | ||||||||
| 2018* | 28 | PHI | TE | 86 | 16 | 16 | 156 | 116 | 1163 | 10.0 | 8 | 66 | 57.1 | 34 | 7.3 | 72.7 | 74.4% | 7.5 | 0 | 116 | 10.0 | 1163 | 8 | 1 | 9 | PB | ||||||||
| 2019* | 29 | PHI | TE | 86 | 15 | 15 | 135 | 88 | 916 | 10.4 | 6 | 50 | 56.3 | 30 | 5.9 | 61.1 | 65.2% | 6.8 | 0 | 88 | 10.4 | 916 | 6 | 1 | 7 | PB | ||||||||
| 2020 | 30 | PHI | TE | 86 | 11 | 11 | 72 | 36 | 335 | 9.3 | 1 | 16 | 38.9 | 42 | 3.3 | 30.5 | 50.0% | 4.7 | 0 | 36 | 9.3 | 335 | 1 | 0 | 3 | |||||||||
| 2021 | 31 | 2TM | TE | 17 | 14 | 112 | 74 | 763 | 10.3 | 5 | 40 | 50.0 | 47 | 4.4 | 44.9 | 66.1% | 6.8 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 100.0 | 4 | 4.0 | 0.2 | 0.1 | 75 | 10.2 | 767 | 5 | 0 | 8 | ||
| ARI | TE | 86 | 11 | 11 | 81 | 56 | 574 | 10.3 | 3 | 30 | 51.9 | 47 | 5.1 | 52.2 | 69.1% | 7.1 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 100.0 | 4 | 4.0 | 0.4 | 0.1 | 57 | 10.1 | 578 | 3 | 0 | 6 | |||
| PHI | TE | 86 | 6 | 3 | 31 | 18 | 189 | 10.5 | 2 | 10 | 45.2 | 28 | 3.0 | 31.5 | 58.1% | 6.1 | 0 | 18 | 10.5 | 189 | 2 | 0 | 2 | |||||||||||
| 2022 | 32 | ARI | TE | 86 | 10 | 10 | 69 | 47 | 406 | 8.6 | 4 | 24 | 55.1 | 32 | 4.7 | 40.6 | 68.1% | 5.9 | 0 | 47 | 8.6 | 406 | 4 | 0 | 3 | |||||||||
| 2023 | 33 | ARI | TE | 86 | 7 | 7 | 43 | 27 | 187 | 6.9 | 1 | 8 | 41.9 | 17 | 3.9 | 26.7 | 62.8% | 4.3 | 0 | 27 | 6.9 | 187 | 1 | 0 | 2 | |||||||||
| Career | 151 | 113 | 1061 | 709 | 7434 | 10.5 | 46 | 399 | 53.4 | 60 | 4.7 | 49.2 | 66.8% | 7.0 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 100.0 | 4 | 4.0 | 0.0 | 0.0 | 710 | 10.5 | 7438 | 46 | 5 | 62 | |||||
| 9 yrs | PHI | 123 | 85 | 868 | 579 | 6267 | 10.8 | 38 | 337 | 54.0 | 60 | 4.7 | 51.0 | 66.7% | 7.2 | 0 | 579 | 10.8 | 6267 | 38 | 5 | 51 | ||||||||||||
| 3 yrs | ARI | 28 | 28 | 193 | 130 | 1167 | 9.0 | 8 | 62 | 50.8 | 47 | 4.6 | 41.7 | 67.4% | 6.0 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 100.0 | 4 | 4.0 | 0.1 | 0.0 | 131 | 8.9 | 1171 | 8 | 11 | |||||
Ben Sinnott
I’ll defer to Ben Sinnott’s biggest fan to explain who he is and his expected role with the Commanders.
In his four years at Kansas State, Sinnott never put up gaudy numbers, though his 2023 stats were very solid, catching 49 balls for 676 yards and 6 TDs (better numbers than Sanders and All, it should be said). It was enough to earn him Honorable Mention All-American recognition as well as First Team All Big 12 honors.
With measurables that comp pretty closely to former first round pick TJ Hockenson and LaPorta, it was (and still is) baffling to me that people weren’t drawing the parallels.
When most fans think about tight ends, they usually want to envision the splashy plays: Oversized slot receivers grabbing a ball over the middle and taking it to the house, ideally having smashed some diminutive defensive back into oblivion on the way there. And, don’t get me wrong, I love that too. But that’s generally not how young tight ends get their break in the pros.
Coaches have a decision with their inexperienced TEs:
Do we risk our pass protection, and our quarterback, by testing a tight end who’s not quite ready? Or do we ease that tight end into the lineup, and hope that slowing down the process produces results down the road?
Generally speaking, coaches choose option two. So when you see a college player who is a talented pass catcher, and can do this, you pay attention:
Blocking highlights of @ben_sinnott as featured by our broadcast partners at #FoxSports I can use a guy like this on my Monday morning trip to the DMV office pic.twitter.com/kfQN8TONmm
— Wildcat Coaching Video (@KStateVDO) October 16, 2023
Sinnott offers a bit of positional flexibility, being reminiscent of the Joe Gibbs “H” back. Here’s what Chris Cooley had to say about Sinnott this past week:
“I will tell you right now, Joe Gibbs would love Ben Sinnott. This would be his guy. He would draft this guy. This is his H-back who can play receiver and tight end. He is a versatile tight end.”
That kind of versatility could end up allowing the Commanders to keep 4 players at the tight end position, with Sinnott moving around the formation in a variety of roles.
Armani Rogers
On May 18, 2022, I was so excited about Armani Rogers that I devoted an entire 5 O’Clock Club post to him.
Here’s how I summarized that article:
In 2022, Armani Rogers was targeted 6 times. Five of those passes were completed for 64 yards (12.8 average) and 4 first downs.
Washington was 3-0 in games in which Rogers was targeted.
Like Logan Thomas, 25-year-old Armani Rogers is a converted college quarterback (UNLV). He was undrafted last year, and played well in training camp and the preseason. He was one of 5 tight ends on the initial 53-man roster.
What I see in these 6 plays is a guy with good hands, an understanding for how to get open, an ability to get north and south in a hurry, awareness of where the first down marker is, and an ability to break tackles.
As you can see from his film clips above, Rogers was having a pretty good rookie season, but missed several games due to injury — he was on IR from Week 11 to Week 17. I’m thinking that Eric Bieniemy might be excited when he sees these plays by the young 2nd-year tight end.
At that time, I expected Armani Rogers to develop into a good NFL tight end during the ‘23 season, and then take over as the team’s No. 1 option this season. Of course, all of that came to a crashing halt when Rogers tore his Achilles tendon in the team’s first OTA session of the ‘23 offseason in late May.
He isn’t quite a year removed from his injury, though Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins each suffered Achilles tears in the regular season and are expected to play this season, so I am cautiously optimistic that Armani will be able to participate in OTAs, attend training camp, and earn a spot as one of the team’s tight ends this season.
Right now, there’s little to base that hope on other than a handful of regular season snaps from 2022 and good reports from coaches and beat reporters about what he showed in practice, but if he is able to come back healthy and get back on his earlier track, Rogers could provide a strong element to the TE group.
John Bates
I may be the biggest John Bates fan among the Washington faithful. I like what he did in college and I like what he adds to the Commanders roster. He was drafted in the 4th round of the 2021 draft by the Washington Football team.
Here’s what Hogs Haven said about Bates in July last year, ahead of the ‘23 season:
While Bates’ 2022 performance fell below that threshold, his rookie performance, in 2021, exceeded it. His 2021 numbers, 20 receptions for 249 yards and 1 TD were among the best in his draft class, and they would have placed him 12th in receptions and 8th in yardage among TE2s in 2022.
As a tight end primarily drafted for his blocking proficiency, I’m not sure anyone ever expected Bates to be among the most productive tight ends in the league. However, during his initial – admittedly short – two season sample, he certainly appears capable of performing as a decent TE2 in the league, in terms of offensive performance.
The only thing that can really be said for John Bates’ receiving stats in 2023 is that they were slightly better than his 2022 stats.
| Games | Receiving | Rushing | Total Yds | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Year | Age | Tm | Pos | No. | G | GS | Tgt | Rec | Yds | Y/R | TD | 1D | Succ% | Lng | R/G | Y/G | Ctch% | Y/Tgt | Att | Yds | TD | 1D | Succ% | Lng | Y/A | Y/G | A/G | Touch | Y/Tch | YScm | RRTD | Fmb | AV |
| 2021 | 24 | WAS | TE | 87 | 17 | 8 | 25 | 20 | 249 | 12.5 | 1 | 11 | 68.0 | 32 | 1.2 | 14.6 | 80.0% | 10.0 | 0 | 20 | 12.5 | 249 | 1 | 1 | 2 | ||||||||
| 2022 | 25 | WAS | TE | 87 | 16 | 7 | 22 | 14 | 108 | 7.7 | 1 | 4 | 50.0 | 20 | 0.9 | 6.8 | 63.6% | 4.9 | 0 | 14 | 7.7 | 108 | 1 | 1 | 1 | ||||||||
| 2023 | 26 | WAS | TE | 87 | 17 | 4 | 28 | 19 | 151 | 7.9 | 0 | 6 | 50.0 | 35 | 1.1 | 8.9 | 67.9% | 5.4 | 0 | 19 | 7.9 | 151 | 0 | 0 | 1 | ||||||||
| Career | 50 | 19 | 75 | 53 | 508 | 9.6 | 2 | 21 | 56.0 | 35 | 1.1 | 10.2 | 70.7% | 6.8 | 0 | 53 | 9.6 | 508 | 2 | 2 | 4 | ||||||||||||
Personally, I think Bates has a role on an NFL team, and I’d like it to be in Washington. Looking beyond this season to 2025, when Zach Ertz may well be retired from the NFL, it would be good to have Bates returning as a home-grown free agent.
But if we assume that Ertz and Sinnott are roster locks, then Bates could find himself fighting for a spot on the 53-man roster in the final year of his rookie contract.
Cole Turner
Cole Turner was a big receiver (listed by the Commanders at 6’6”, 240 pounds) who converted to tight end as a college sophomore in 2020.
Much was expected from Turner in his rookie season after being drafted in the 5th round of the 2022 draft by the Washington Commanders. That season, however, turned out to be rather disappointing, as he was often inactive or unused due to a chronic hamstring injury. He ended up being targeted only 9 times, and ended up with 2 receptions for 23 yards.
Last year, Turner showed up to training camp sporting a new look that was both stronger and leaner.
Cole Turner says he’s feeling strong physically this camp. Dropped his body fat from 14% to 9%. Did a lot of work on his hamstring – revealed he tore it last year.
— Ben Standig (@BenStandig) June 6, 2023
Expectations were again high going into the ‘23 season with new offensive coordinator Eric BIeniemy. Again, Turner’s actual production was disappointing, seeing just 142 offensive snaps (17%). He had 11 receptions on 15 targets for 120 yards, but he was all but invisible in the team’s offense. It seemed like he was ‘in the doghouse’ with coaches because there was no clear reason for how scarcely he was used.
If the Commanders keep only 3 tight ends (and even if they keep 4), Turner could find himself as the odd man out, being a less capable blocker than John Bates. His role as a little-used receiving target who also plays only about 25% of special teams snaps is unlikely to endear him to coaches unless he impresses mightily in minicamps, OTAs and training camp.
Colson Yankoff
Like Cole Turner, Yankoff is a big(ish) former receiver (6’3”, 233 pounds) who changed positions — first to running back for his final two seasons at UCLA, and now to an aspiring tight end, a position he never played in college.
As an undrafted college free agent, Yankoff’s best-case scenario for his rookie season is to end up on the practice squad.
Based on this profile from Lance Zierlein, Yankoff’s chances of sticking around while he develops his skills as a tight end seem to rely almost solely on his special teams skills.
Yankoff’s talent rests in his ability to get down the field to find and tackle punt and kick returners. He has adequate top-end speed as an F tight end, but he has very little practical experience as a route runner. He will need to prove his ball skills and show he can wall off defenders as a run blocker in space. His experience as a running back should help him after the catch. Unless a team decides to use him exclusively as a special-teams ace, he will need to prove to be at least functional at an offensive position to secure a roster spot.
This is mirrored in a slightly more enthusiastic summary of his play published in mid-April:
The former four-star recruit at quarterback (and Elite 11 participant) committed to Washington before transferring to Westwood after redshirting his first year. Yankoff moved to wide receiver in 2020, then to running back in 2022. He’s clearly a projection at tight end, but he showcased the necessary skills and tested well at the Bruins’ pro day. If given an opportunity, he could become a special teams ace — Yankoff produced 10 tackles in 2023. Projected: PFA
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